Higher ranking celestials and/or territorial spirits

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Higher ranking celestials and/or territorial spirits

Post by UndertheBlood » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:53 am

I have heard from a number of deliverance (and related) ministers that to engage in spiritual warfare with high-ranking spirits can cause yourself to be demonically afflicted on account that these spirits often have rights to these locations due to sin. For instance, you drive by a psychic's place of business and say, "I bind all of the spirits over this establishment in Jesus' name." Also, someone might say, "I bind, gag, and render powerless every territorial spirit located over the city of Dallas in Jesus name."

It seems to make sense that this type of warfare is kind of pointless and could prove hazardous, but I just wanted to hear your opinions.

I believe there are many churches performing and advocating this type of warfare and I'm not sure this is a good idea. One minister friend of mine said that once this practice was renounced, the indwelling/oppressing demons were much more easily cast out. He also said that this was a critical issue for roughly 1/3rd of his clients.

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Post by Rescuer » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:22 am

UndertheBlood wrote:I have heard from a number of deliverance (and related) ministers that to engage in spiritual warfare with high-ranking spirits can cause yourself to be demonically afflicted on account that these spirits often have rights to these locations due to sin. For instance, you drive by a psychic's place of business and say, "I bind all of the spirits over this establishment in Jesus' name." Also, someone might say, "I bind, gag, and render powerless every territorial spirit located over the city of Dallas in Jesus name."

It seems to make sense that this type of warfare is kind of pointless and could prove hazardous, but I just wanted to hear your opinions.

I believe there are many churches performing and advocating this type of warfare and I'm not sure this is a good idea. One minister friend of mine said that once this practice was renounced, the indwelling/oppressing demons were much more easily cast out. He also said that this was a critical issue for roughly 1/3rd of his clients.

Thoughts?

God Bless.
In the Scriptures we see the servants of God dealing with demons inside of people not over areas or cities. I do not think, generally, it is wise for the Body of Christ to enagage in warfare with those evil spirits that have dominion over areas. However, there may be cases where this kind of warfare could be benefical. This would be an exception not the norm.

Those who participate in this kind of warfare open themselves to very powerful satanic forces. One needs to be very cautious.
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Prayers against territorial spirits

Post by mike3 » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:45 pm

In my ignorance I have often prayed outloud against spirits in my school district and county. I often felt that I was attacked emotionally because of that but I didn't stop. Might have been dumb not to but I don't want evil to have the victory. I will say that recently we lost employees and this school year has been very good. Generally everyone agrees there is a new feeling on campus. Did they leave? I don't know but people left and that was helpful. I also frequently 'bind' spirits of palm readers and the like when I drive by their shops or porn places. Once again might not have been the thing to do. Had to go through an exorcism recently though I do not recall any of the demons saying they came due to my prayers against them. But that might change as I still have some filth in me that needs to come out. I do not want them in me, I want them out. I see the Exorcist warns us to caution. I will heed that advice. Do I need to renouce something? It took a long time to get rid of the demons that went. Should I stop pleading the Blood of Jesus around my school district?
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I don't understand

Post by Clare » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:35 pm

I am VERY new - as in joined yesteday or the day before. I'm confused by the last post because I do the same thing for the school I teach at. I was told to do it once by a very dear sister. Is that wrong or unwise? At times I fear our school is under attack as we train young ministers. Each morning as I go into my office, I close the door and say "In the name of Jesus Christ I cast out any demons that might harrass this school and send them into the arms of Jesus. In Jesus name I call legions of angels to watch over this who work and learn here." I do something similar at home. Is that not right?
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Pleading the Blood

Post by mike3 » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:09 pm

In retrospect. I realize that I do not need to stop pleading the precious powerful blood of Jesus around my school and home. I don't believe pleading the blood was wrong but maybe I could have spared myself some mental/emotional torment if I had not done it but I 'ain't' stopping now! I believe a breakthrough has occurred at my school.
I do know that I might not start again if I move to another place w/o a group of people agreeing with me in prayer and pleading the same thing. I also plead the blood, the powerful blood of Jesus over myself, my family and others as a hedge of protection. Do we plead a hedge of protection around a city, a county, a state or a nation? Hopefully we can with some influence in that the blood would weaken evil in those places.

Recently a friend related a story to me in which his friend described praying again the demonic forces in a city or small town. The man was described being pulled from bed one night by his foot by a demon who said it would not be unseated from its territory. I do not know if the man continued his prayer assault again the territorial demon but it seems to me that if one man's prayer or maybe two persons praying against a territorial demon can elicit that type of response the prayers must have had a negative/weakening affect on that evil form. Bless the Power of Jesus Name and the Power of His Blood! All are subject to our God! We bow reverently and with purpose to Him and Worship His Holy Name! mike

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Post by Applesauce » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:13 pm

it might be a little risky for one Christian but if a large group get together I have seen it happen. I wish I had that video to show you what happened when a few thousand got together and prayed against the power of the enemy...they had results in less than 24 hours...

I personally would love to be able to pray for my school and see results, and I don't see why i can't...but first I think im going to ask God about it :mrgreen:

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Post by DoorTwelve » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:38 pm

Hi
I realize this is a rather late post on this subject but I would like to
say that i do practice territorial warfare against spirits and I will tell
you why because I see definitive improvements in those areas when I am consistant in my prayer, meaning I bind spirits and plead the precious blood of Jesus ,and loose Angels of God to plunder his footholds,over areas the enemy desires including my home and place
of business or psychic buildings as a matter of fact one closed shortly after I issued them a warning in writing I stood on a side street and prayed over that place for about thirty minutes several weeks later it closed, and y'know what the enemy has come at me a few times and I'll bind him every time my mouth goes open and I plead the blood every time he comes at me and y'know then I will ask the Holy Spirit about Satans strongholds and I will go to them and pray against them! If Satan
comes at me I'll raise the standard and guess what if he wants more I will put more effort into it! If he is going to try and kill steal and destroy the ones I love I will call upon the authority of Christ and tear down every
thing that exalts itself above God and I wont stop. I am reasonable and patient and loving but when it comes to Satan and his minions I am tenacious and I cannot see any reason to reserve myself to back into a corner ,now their are some people who are not equipped fully to battle in this manner ,and this I understand because I need to be humble and forgiving and repentant and I need to remain in prayer with the Holy Spirit to guide me! I don't believe in recklessness or lack of care should be taken in this area,recognizing how Satan works is key to winning rounds against him,he breeds chaos and sews deciet and rebellion
when your quick to pick these out he is usually right there. If he decides to manifest in my home as he may have in others I rely on my fortess and my hightower,my rock and my defender so no matter what I am covered by Jesus! AMEN
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Post by Applesauce » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:35 am

Wow thanks!

God just used that to clarify some things I was wondering. My take on all this is, God is always bigger than the boogie man. Personally, I see it as being in fear of these dominions isn't what God wants for us..However I believe that it would be smart to only engage in such broad warfare if God made it clear he wants you in that department..because he always gives you what you need to successfully do what he wants you to do.

That's my 2 cents..thanks door for the post :)
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Re Hi Applesauce

Post by DoorTwelve » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:53 am

Have a Blessed Day, Applesauce
See ya in Heaven and we can do lunch sometime at my place!
hehe just love the thought, Bind,Loose and Plead the Blood of Jesus
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Post by UndertheBlood » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:09 am

These are interesting posts, but I still believe that we should use discernment when performing warfare against celestial beings (see 2 Peter 2, Jude, and John Paul Jackson's book Needless Casualties of War). I'm not at all suggesting that we are powerless against these foes, but I do believe that a better practice would be to appeal to God for His power in moving and rebuking these spirits. This is what is being performed by a number of experienced ministers and it has been working for them. Thus, why risk it?

Just my opinion... God bless!
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Post by Applesauce » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:45 pm

I wish I could remember that video I saw in church where some 50,000 people stayed up all night praying for their community..I don't know exactly what they said when praying but I do know that within 24 hours they saw huge massive changes...It was cool..ill try and find it
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Post by Kingdom Warrior » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:31 pm

Ephesians 3:10-11

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

Paul makes it clear that it is the church's job to constantly and faithfully proclaim to the heavenlies the manifold wisdom of God. Yet, how many churches do you know that obey this command? It is, after all, a command not a suggestion.

It is in this area that we see the church's most flagrant disobedience to God's word.

As a result of this, I believe (and this is strictly my personal opinion) that God does call on us, individually, to enforce this. I have observed that when this happens, we can come under extreme attacks and retaliation by the enemy. For this reason, I suggest great caution.

Earnestly pray for revelation, including fasting, if you sense that this is what God has called you to do. He is faithful, and He will answer you.

Jumping into this kind of warfare without a clear leading of the Holy Spirit is foolish.

This is not meant to sound like I'm saying not to do this. Just make sure that this is what God wants you to do. Entering into this type of warfare without authority to do so can carry a heavy price.

UndertheBlood is correct: spiritual discernment is vital.

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Re: I don't understand

Post by texastig » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:16 pm

Clare wrote:I am VERY new - as in joined yesteday or the day before. I'm confused by the last post because I do the same thing for the school I teach at. I was told to do it once by a very dear sister. Is that wrong or unwise? At times I fear our school is under attack as we train young ministers. Each morning as I go into my office, I close the door and say "In the name of Jesus Christ I cast out any demons that might harrass this school and send them into the arms of Jesus. In Jesus name I call legions of angels to watch over this who work and learn here." I do something similar at home. Is that not right?
Clare, it's not wrong. We want the devil out and God in.
Thanks,
TT

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Spiritual warfare continued?

Post by DoorTwelve » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:32 pm

My posting earlier in this thread was pertaining to how I approach
spiritual warfare,over areas that are Demon Dugouts I will pray
if moved to do so! I have done it in the past and I have seen progress
in these areas and while I recognize that it may cause more open
warfare I myself am in the position that these spirits will operate
as they choose unless hindered,hence my position I am there to hinder
what they seek to do to the Body of Christ and to those who are unaware
of the Demonic,not everyone has engaged in this area and prepared for it as I have,and it may not be the thing to do for someone who does not expect to receive retaliation or who knows not the things spoken of by the apostle Paul such as the dawning of God's Spiritual Armor, and diligently using scriptural prayer against the enemy, but I think after the battle ensues and the retaliation begins what you'll notice as you start to take ground and don't get discouraged
you start gaining ground, and then more ground ,I believe until the attacks become less frequent if they come at all!
I am not claiming this is perfection or the absolute best way to do
things ,but it might be ,and if we are at war, and the enemy is using all he has to defeat those he can,Let the worshipers arise!
O Death where is your sting! :-D
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