Questions about the SUPERNATURAL

[JesusFreak]

When ministering deliverance to a person, how do you know that the demon hasn't jumped into someone else? How can you prevent this from happening altogether?

Can demons inhabit places like chapels and churches? If they can, how do you get rid of them (esp. if the property is not yours)? Can they affect you if you go to the place they inhabit to pray?


Thanks guys!!
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All things work together for good to them that love the Lord. Romans 8:28

[texastig]

I believe that God clamps the demons down to where they can't go into people during deliverance. The only choice they have is to leave to the dry places, then they find someone unsuspecting victim later on somewhere else.

Yes, demons are in the churches.
From the book, "The devil and Karen Kingston", a demon said, "We are in the churches and we are under everyone's holy noses and they don't know about it. All we want is control of the churches in the world."
The only way to get rid of demons from churches is by obeying the Holy Spirit.
Thanks,
TexasTig

[jryan]

[sky]

Hi there This is interesting , Because the way I read the Bible that no demon can stay were the Presenc of God is.
So howcan demons be in a church?

Light cannot have fellowship with darkness. Similarly, a demon cannot dwell in a place where the Holy God of the universe dwells

Thessalonians 5:5 “For you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness;” (see also 2 Corinthians 6:14)

The Spirit of God dwells inside every true believer.

Demons hate and fear the Lord. They do not want to be near Him and cannot stand His presence.

Mark 1:23-26 “And just then there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out, saying, ‘What do we have to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!’ And Jesus rebuked him, saying, ‘Be quiet, and come out of him!’ And throwing him into convulsions, the unclean spirit cried out with a loud voice, and came out of him.”

Mark 5:2-13 “And when He had come out of the boat, immediately a man from the tombs with an unclean spirit met Him, and he had his dwelling among the tombs. And no one was able to bind him anymore, even with a chain; because he had often been bound with shackles and chains, and the chains had been torn apart by him, and the shackles broken in pieces, and no one was strong enough to subdue him. And constantly night and day, among the tombs and in the mountains, he was crying out and gashing himself with stones. And seeing Jesus from a distance, he ran up and bowed down before Him; and crying out with a loud voice, he said, ‘What do I have to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!’ For He had been saying to him, ‘Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!’ . . . And he began to entreat Him earnestly not to send them out of the country . . . And the demons entreated Him, saying, ‘Send us into the swine so that we may enter them.’ And He gave them permission . . .”

The Lord has complete control over Satan and demons. They can only do something that He gives them permission to do and nothing more. They do His bidding and He uses them to accomplish His purposes. Neither Satan or the demons cannot touch even a hair on the head of a believer unless the Lord permits them to and such a thing would be used for God’s glory and the believer’s ultimate good (see Romans 8:28 and verses 38-39).

If you are filled with the holyspirit the we are Spiritual not carnal we are like God his lite shins through us there for demons or satan can not stand to near us or in us we the church are cover by the blood of Jesus. and there for have a hedge of Proctection around us,
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~Sky~

[Talkingwithjesus]

I`d read up on false teachers...they`re in some churches

Anyone who makes you feel odd at worshiping God has a demon spirit whether in church or at home....just a thought
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Sometimes God closes doors to keep us from making big mistakes......Deb

[sky]

Ok I still dont understand how this can happen, when the chapters read if a (demon satan) can't stay were the Presenc of God is, I know that unbleavers do go to church, but if there is wrong inside of them and they love the lord then they always end up in deliverance,
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~Sky~

[Talkingwithjesus]

When ministering deliverance to a person, how do you know that the demon hasn't jumped into someone else?


When Jesus cast the demons out of the man into the swine they asked him to do that....cast them out....go back to where they came from
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Sometimes God closes doors to keep us from making big mistakes......Deb

[sky]

Ok the way I read and understand the bible
when jesus cast out the demons out of a man in to the swine,
lets look at the (V) Mark 5:13Jesus let them do this. The evil spirits came out of the man and went into the pigs. The herd of about two thousand pigs rushed down the cliff into the sea and drowned.........
The demons went in to PIG's Not people,

when having a deliverance in a church they ask alot of the people to leave the church and the eldors of the church are the ones that stay.

if demons are in someone they are usual are inveted in. some how, or the person is living a ungodly life.
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[jryan]

[sky]

Amen ! I agree with you.I Dont agree on is. demons staying were the prasent of God is. unclean spirits hate the prasents of holyness. they will not stay! that is way it is very inportant to always be walking in the lite of the lord.
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[star 59]

One spirit that likes to be in churches is the spirit of Jezebel....She is on constant attack against the very foundation of the church ....She is a warring and controlling spirit.....I am quite sure you have met people who have to be in complete control of the situation....She is not a builder of the Kingdom of God but a destroyer...She compels people to self interests not Jesus...During the sermon she will have a running dialogue with the person next to her...She cannot allow people to think for themselves...She wants a visible postion in the church and is always promoting her own agenda and wants a ministry with a title...She uses tears and the Bible to manipulate others...She plays mind games and is competive with others in the church making them feel insufficent...She is against the very prophets of God and usually has the gift of prophecy but it is from her god Baal containing 1/2 truths thus making them lies...Her prophecies are condemning not comforting....She uses words like I heard and is involved in things that are none of her business..She is working from the spirit of witchcraft and likes to be unclear and mystical making things unclear ...She can spot those who she can control and she uses flattering words to seduce them to her ..I call her she but this spirit is non gender...She is the spirit in Revelation and the queen that Elijah battled....A person with this spirit is hard to spot but when she is outed watch out for the phoney repentance...People with this spirit either are delivered in the long run or else the church has to put them out for there is damage done to the the entire church...The weak Christian cannot understand why this person was put out of the fellowship and usually follows Jezebel out...She will go to another church and give a big sob story about how much trouble she had at the last church and some pastors never check out her story so her agenda begins all over again...The first person that I met with this spirit was in my church and I could not understand why the pastor and others on staff liked her but I did not want to be anywhere near her...About 3 years later when the church was having major problems a visiting missionary discerned this spirit within the church...The person did leave taking others with her.....Yes there are spirits that come into the church and they are brought in by the people....

[sky]

if he had the spirit of Jezebel in him how could he be able to be in the church, demons can not stay were the Presenc of God is.
So what i'm asking is if the church is filled with the presenc of God and is filled with the holyspirit, then by the word of God they have to leave,
because Demons hate and fear the Lord. They do not want to be near Him and cannot stand His presence.The Spirit of God dwells inside every true believer. and the believers are the church. not the church building.For you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness
Light cannot have fellowship with darkness. Similarly, a demon cannot dwell in a place where the Holy God of the universe dwells ...

So how can they stay? is what i'm asking,
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[star 59]

Luke 5:31-35 and Mark 1:21-26 tells about the demonic who was in the synagogue.....He cried out to Jesus not to deliver him but the demons spoke instead "Let us alone".... Jesus rebuked them and the demons left the man...I see this as the man was not interested in deliverance since the demons spoke and not he....The man was so accustomed to the demons he no longer recognized the need for deliverance....He was in the synagogue the place for worship as today's church is.....His demons might have been religious spirits ....Religious spirits congregate where religion is practiced...The best I understand about religious spirits is that they are the ones who cause people to live by works and not faith....Another aspect in this is that Satan is allowed in the presence of God and is the accuser of the brethern Job 1:6,7....How can a demon be a church service where the word of God is preached and people feel the presence of God? They have legal grounds with the person that brought them in and they will stay undetected as long as they can.....The demons will eventually be detected and the person will either be delivered or they will leave the church and go to another church or just stop going to church....

[jryan]