what is causing this chaos in my mind?

[yasmin]

hi all, as you are all aware i have demons of depression and fear all my life. doctors say it is a chemical imbalance, i would prefer to call it a spiritual imbalance, now if for example it is 'chemical' my question has always been what is causing this imbalance? surely there is a cause behind it so what could be causing this 'imbalance'? I have no doubt that the cause is 'spiritual' something the 'world' does not and cannot accept, hence there lack of success in treating the so called 'mentally ill'. the darkness in me can only be spirtually derived, after all the enemy came to kill steal and destroy. i feel so much heaviness and blocks in my mind it is so unbearable at times, we fight a very real and vicious spiritual world, lets not forget that, the battle is very very real. i pray for all those of us who are in bondage may the HS minister to us all in our darkness and shed the light and peace we so desperatley seek in our hearts, souls and minds.

[Jesus Is Real]

Yasmin,

I could be totally wrong about this but I'm still going to post this in good faith that I am hearing The Lord's impression here when it comes to you Yasmin, checking my own motives as well so that we both might be edified in God's Word.

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I'm getting the impression that you could be suffering from Condemnation/Shame, in this case self-condemnation/shame and that has to do with your heart. And if you take your life back in that area, placing your Trust in Christ Jesus, you will experience He Who Is Your Prince of Peace afresh all over again - God fully knows - but I'll try to explain.

See this Yasmin:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:9-11;&version=9;
And this: With The Heart
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/.......

About taking Med's:
Now I'm not wanting to push taking Medication, I barely take an aspirin tablet myself.

But I also, allow at times, "Dr. Luke" to help me where God will give the increase. Such times as when I get a bad flu or something like that.

But Yasmin, if you can balance your chemicals just for a time, mind you, clear the cob-webs (if you will) to then see more clearly Spiritual things, in your own Bible, when it comes to repenting over sin and waiting on The Lord in humility. You see, the stronghold can be torn down but, if our way of life does not change God says we will die in our sins, not matter if we called Jesus "Lord, Lord" but we did not do His Commandments which are not grievous. It is our own ways and deeds that cause depression and which give place to the devil. This Gospel of Jesus Christ will never change nor should True Ministers side track this very issue.

Your chemical imbalance might be hindering you to understand very Foundational Spiritual teachings. Now, I don't believe you to be considered a lunatic who needs to be tired in chains, so helping you help your body, just to see if it helps you for a time, is not a sin against your Faith in God at all.

Yes Christian's have authority to cast out demons, but if we are not dealing with sin, the demon/s have all legal ground to come back. That is nothing but going around in circles.

You've asked much help in Bobby's Forum here, but you seem to keep on asking for the same help, and yet your own testimony is still "I'm still depressed and not getting relief for Deliverance" and the like.

I feel for you, and so this is why I am saying to re-consider getting help from your own "Dr. Luke". It won't somehow take anything away from the Deliverance Ministry, if I even believe that then I might be into my own selfish ambitions when it comes to Deliverance.

God won't condemn you for letting "Dr. Luke" aid you for a time precious, nor will I, nor (I believe) anyone here. But if it's still about even your own self-approval in NOT taking med's then we are still into works all over again.

Taking Med's:
No, it's not a cure but it might be 'the wine' you need to help your ailment's for a while, until you can relax a bit to hear the Full Gospel of Jesus Christ. You might find out that it's not a demon your wrestling but your own past judgments which are taking it's toll on your life, which calls for "Forgiveness".

Bypassing the Fear:
If you fear taking this type of Medication, you might want to test it and give yourself permission (bypassing this fear in your) to receive what "Dr. Luke" is saying to you, to see if your chemicals will balances out a bit. Then once your body is more stable Yasmin, you could hear Spiritual teachings easily when others here have addressed your needs - be it 'casting out a demon' or as I have been saying to you ~ 'dealing with your own heart in regards to sin, so that you won't continue to give place to the demons after they are cast out or how ever The Lord sees fit'.

It could also be that you need to take more B vitamins like B12 for instant or more Vit-C. Ask God Yasmin what release He will give you, because it seems like your problem since last year you've been here, is not demonic. I'm more and more beginning to be convinced that it's not demonic - though I would love to cast some out and slam them against the wall for you (I speak as in the terms of mere man) but the more I am learning about you Yasmin the more it seems like you need to start asking God how He can be well Pleased with YOU.

Jesus Is Lord.

Letting you know the depth of my love for you,
Connie


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Romans 10:9-11 (King James Version)
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9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.


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GOD LOVES HIS LAND and there is foot steps to take as He will, little by little, lead you by His Spirit. Teach a man the Full Gospel and he will Truly Work out His Own Salvation with (Holy) Fear and Trembling.

[yasmin]

Thanks connie for that. Yes I am taking meds now I do find they help my mind relax, I do agree with you that they can be a 'tool' in my healing. I know that by fearing I am committing a sin against God, I have tried to say that a demon is causing the fear but maybe it is me. I totally take on board everything you say. yes I am going around in circles, with no peace but I am trying now to be obedient even if it means simply takings the meds for the time being.

[Jesus Is Real]

Yasmin,

If we do have a spirit of fear it's not what God gave you, but it hidges on what we had done where it could come and torment us. God gives us over to the tormentors, but He doesn't give us this spirit of fear - there's a huge Difference. But when we truly learn about making our own tree good and it's fruit good, then we will know the power, love and the sound mind that God does give those who give Him their Whole Heart to walk in His Ways and not our past selfish and wicked ways even after we have believed Jesus and was forgiven - I'll try to explain this.

But I also wanted to say this to you in Jesus name: Though you are still wavering and not 'too sure' at this time, God will make you mindful in time and I am sensitive to this with you, yet I'm telling you In Jesus name that your so right about what you had said - it all hindges on us. There's really no 'maybe' about it - Honestly! The demons have place ONLY to torment us when "we" are delivered up to them because of our own wicked ways and deeds. Yet God will also bring them to us to buffet us so that we will never boast of ourselves in the Knowledge He has given to us. So in all points - God Is God - He does what He wants to. So you must ask Him which is He doing to you, punishing you for sin or buffeting you by a Demon because of His Knowledge in you. But if it's not the latter (buffeting you) Yasmin, then I'll try to explain by the Grace of God given me - it's all Jesus we Praise!


God is dealing with our Lives:
We are either choosing life or death - blessings or cursings from God in our lives. If we choose, to obey God from the heart, not because we've moved into works or anything like that, but because we truly have the Spirit of God leading us, (not practicing Rebellion), to put the deeds of our flesh to death (see Rom 8:13-14), then God can bless us. But if we break God's Law's, which are laws of His God Kind of Love, then it's just as Jesus told us it would be, for God will never mislead us nor lie to us: God's Word Is Faithful and True to our hearts and minds if we believe~

Jesus teaches us through the Spirit of the Fear of The Lord:
Matt 18:21-35
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

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So Yasmin, our walk will result in either God's blessings coming down to us because our Whole Heart is toward Him and His Ways,or His Curses upon us, (because God is punishing us because of wickedness we've done), till we pay all that was due unto God. And as you know, the tormentors/the demons are not blesssings from God but the doings of His Wrath.

But as you can see in how Jesus teaches us about God's Way of Doing things in His Kingdom - for He Is God of all - the problems is not the demons - to begin with - because it hindged on what we do to others after we are Saved.

Now, some demons might be cast out in that pit we were thrown into to be tormented, but if our hearts have not payed what was due yet, then we're still in the pit with other tormentors, where there will be no releif in sight.

And Jesus tells us, Yasmin, that when we act wickedly toward people we won't be 'set free' until all is paid. ((No matter how many demons are cast out of our presence, we will still remain in that pit until every last cent is paid with other tormentors tormenting us.))

Until every cent is paid:
And that speaks of: Bringing good fruits in our lives to God - like hating our own wicked ways that we had engaged in that got us into that pit to begin with, where then He can give us Repentance and Grace (empowerment) to then turn whole heartedly from it. And when we do we show the Cross in our lives which then says: PAYMENT IN FULL - YOU CAN GO NOW! That's why it's so important to deny ourselves (our own wicked deeds of the flesh), carry our Cross and follow Jesus Christ. If we are not doing this, by the Spirit of Christ, we are not of His nor does He even know us.

The Fear of the Lord (received in my life/heart) is clean, converting the soul.

God is Love~
Your sister in Christ - Yasmin,
Connie


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GOD LOVES HIS LAND and there is foot steps to take as He will, little by little, lead you by His Spirit. Teach a man the Full Gospel and he will Truly Work out His Own Salvation with (Holy) Fear and Trembling.

[Jesus Is Real]

Yasmin,

In all humility, we're all still coming out of all this stuff, still, to some degree. There's no big shots in the bunch (<---as my Pastor use to say). Christ (alone) is The Center of His Church, where she (The Church) is more learning to have eyes only for HIM!!

My Spiritual Grandmother, Joyce Green, says "that we become what we steadily behold."

And that should always be "Jesus!!!"

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GOD LOVES HIS LAND and there is foot steps to take as He will, little by little, lead you by His Spirit. Teach a man the Full Gospel and he will Truly Work out His Own Salvation with (Holy) Fear and Trembling.